# DMVPN Phase 3 RIP Routing

**URL:** <https://forum.networklessons.com/t/dmvpn-phase-3-rip-routing/1312>\
**Category:** Lessons Discussion\
**Created:** [December 29, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.networklessons.com/t/dmvpn-phase-3-rip-routing/1312 "2016-12-29T20:29:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![ReneMolenaar](https://cdn-forum.networklessons.com/user_avatar/forum.networklessons.com/renemolenaar/32/488_2.png) [@ReneMolenaar](https://forum.networklessons.com/u/ReneMolenaar)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.networklessons.com/t/dmvpn-phase-3-rip-routing/1312/1 "2016-12-29T20:29:34Z")

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This topic is to discuss the following lesson:

[https://networklessons.com/cisco/ccie-enterprise-infrastructuredmvpn-phase-3-rip-routing/](https://networklessons.com/cisco/ccie-enterprise-infrastructuredmvpn-phase-3-rip-routing/)

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**Author:** ![cj4mcse](https://cdn-forum.networklessons.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@cj4mcse](https://forum.networklessons.com/u/cj4mcse)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2016, 9:44am UTC](https://forum.networklessons.com/t/dmvpn-phase-3-rip-routing/1312/2 "2016-01-12T09:44:25Z")

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It would have been nice if you had used loopback address of 1.1.1.1 for spoke 1 and loop address of 2.2.2.2 for spoke 2 and then loop address of 3.3.3.3 for hub in your examples. Would have been a lot easier to understand the debugs and illustrations that way.

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**Author:** ![chrisnewnham17](https://cdn-forum.networklessons.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@chrisnewnham17](https://forum.networklessons.com/u/chrisnewnham17)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2018, 8:05am UTC](https://forum.networklessons.com/t/dmvpn-phase-3-rip-routing/1312/6 "2018-02-18T08:05:05Z")

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Can I ask why did you use default information originate and the distribute list with a default route in? What was the purpose of the DL?

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**Author:** ![ReneMolenaar](https://cdn-forum.networklessons.com/user_avatar/forum.networklessons.com/renemolenaar/32/488_2.png) [@ReneMolenaar](https://forum.networklessons.com/u/ReneMolenaar)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.networklessons.com/t/dmvpn-phase-3-rip-routing/1312/7 "2018-03-05T12:15:14Z")

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Hello Chris,

With DMVPN phase 3, the spoke routers don’t need a specific route…only a default route.

I used the distribute-list to ensure the spoke routers only receive that default route, nothing else.

Rene

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**Author:** ![pradyumnayadavgla](https://cdn-forum.networklessons.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pradyumnayadavgla](https://forum.networklessons.com/u/pradyumnayadavgla)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2020, 9:38am UTC](https://forum.networklessons.com/t/dmvpn-phase-3-rip-routing/1312/8 "2020-10-02T09:38:12Z")

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Hi Laz,

- Can i know why don’t we know specific route entry unlike phase 2?

\*Again confusion with new term NHRP indication and in what against hub will send nhrp indication as well as we haven’t use nhrp redirect concept anywhere?

Could you explore what spoke 1 will send and to whom talk to with so hub will send nhrp indication and what is this nhrp indication, how it will processed?

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**Author:** ![lagapidis](https://cdn-forum.networklessons.com/user_avatar/forum.networklessons.com/lagapidis/32/4949_2.png) [@lagapidis](https://forum.networklessons.com/u/lagapidis)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 5:50am UTC](https://forum.networklessons.com/t/dmvpn-phase-3-rip-routing/1312/9 "2020-10-07T05:50:46Z")

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Hello Pradyumna

> [@pradyumnayadavgla](#):
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> - Can i know why don’t we know specific route entry unlike phase 2?

This is explained in the **Phase 3** section of the following lesson:

> **[Introduction to DMVPN](https://networklessons.com/vpn/introduction-to-dmvpn#Phase_3)**
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> This lesson explains how DMVPN (Dynamic Multipoint VPN) uses GRE multipoint and the difference between phase 1,2 and 3.

> [@pradyumnayadavgla](#):
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> Again confusion with new term NHRP indication

A an NHRP traffic indication is simply an NHRP redirect. The full term used by Cisco is “NHRP redirect traffic indication” as can be seen here in the following CIsco documentation:

> **[Support - Cisco Support, Documentation, and Downloads](https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/index.html)**
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> Access Cisco Support to find documentation, software downloads, tools, resources, IT support for cases, and more for Cisco products and technologies.

Yes, this terminology is somewhat confusing when in the debugging it is not made clear. So wherever you see “traffic indication” you know it means NHRP redirect.

I hope this has been helpful!

Laz
